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[1:21]  Joe Howard: hi everyone
[1:21]  Emerald Dumont: CAn you hear my voice Eva?
[1:21]  Gary Hazlitt: We were just talking about your inventory
[1:21]  Emerald Dumont: Hi Joe...
[1:21]  Gary Hazlitt: 42 000!
[1:21]  Emerald Dumont: And the size of your Inv :)
[1:21]  Evangeline Wind: no butr i dont have my headset on either em :)
[1:21]  Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[1:22]  Evangeline Wind: my inv?
[1:22]  Evangeline Wind: gary you tattle tail lol
[1:22]  Emerald Dumont: Is OK..will be able to use chat mainly
[1:22]  Galia Beck gave you "The Librarians" discussion 1 Nov 2007.
[1:22]  Joe Howard: I have headset but I cannot hear you
[1:22]  Gary Hazlitt: hehe
[1:22]  Evangeline Wind: ok
[1:22]  Connected
[1:22]  Emerald Dumont: I've only got 7200 ish in my inv..wow! Eva
[1:22]  Evangeline Wind: are yuou saving that seat for someone gary or may i sit by you?
[1:22]  Gary Hazlitt: no please do
[1:22]  Evangeline Wind: ty :)
[1:22]  Gary Hazlitt: thinks do all librarians have wings?
[1:23]  Gary Hazlitt: Interesting point for discussion ;-)
[1:23]  Evangeline Wind: i barely hear someone
[1:23]  Gary Hazlitt: yes
[1:23]  Evangeline Wind: :)
[1:23]  Xtina Carpool: yep
[1:23]  Emerald Dumont: I can barely hear someone.
[1:23]  Texas Timtam: Yep, can hear you.
[1:23]  Community Shepherd: barley
[1:23]  Gary Hazlitt: I have turned off most of the ambient sound pods
[1:23]  Gary Hazlitt: also
[1:23]  Evangeline Wind: hi abi :)
[1:23]  Nova: that might have been me - i'll see if i can get my mike louder
[1:24]  Galia Beck: Background noise is kinda loud
[1:24]  Evangeline Wind: theres a way to turn that down right?
[1:24]  Community Shepherd: I still hear birds :-)
[1:24]  Evangeline Wind: in edit/pref?
[1:24]  Evangeline Wind: ty :)
[1:25]  Nova: emerald where do you want me?
[1:25]  Galia Beck: That's a bit better
[1:25]  Emerald Dumont: Did you want to do panel as well Nova?
[1:25]  Nova: Only if you need an extra - I'm happy to sit in the audience, especially if i can't be heard.
[1:26]  Evangeline Wind: do we turn media down too or no?
[1:26]  Emerald Dumont gave you Admin of the Librarians discussion.
[1:26]  Evangeline Wind: hi mmv :)
[1:26]  MMV Writer: hello
[1:26]  Galia Beck: Does everyone have a notecard?
[1:26]  Community Shepherd: Not me
[1:27]  Evangeline Wind: hi wolfie :)
[1:27]  Evangeline Wind: hi juko :)
[1:27]  Emerald Dumont: hi Wolfie
[1:27]  MMV Writer: hey Wolfie
[1:27]  Gary Hazlitt: Wolfies shrunk?
[1:27]  Wolfie Rankin: I'm lagging my bum off
[1:27]  Wolfie Rankin: Hi there
[1:28]  Wolfie Rankin: Hello all
[1:28]  Galia Beck: Where is Community?
[1:28]  Community Shepherd: Say what?
[1:28]  Wolfie Rankin: I saw someone stuck in the water below us
[1:28]  Wolfie Rankin: oh ok
[1:28]  Emerald Dumont: Oh noes
[1:29]  You decline ABC MELBOURNE LANEWAYS, ABC Island (55, 118, 22) from A group member named Lise Robbiani.
[1:30]  Abi Goldflake: hi everyone
[1:30]  Evangeline Wind: hi abi :)
[1:30]  Gumby Roffo: Hugs Abi
[1:31]  Wolfie Rankin: Hi there
[1:31]  Abi Goldflake: hi eva, where r u?
[1:31]  Emerald Dumont: Welcome everyone..I'm going to get started now..I'm going to use voice for the first bit and then switch to chat
[1:31]  Evangeline Wind: behind you :)
[1:31]  Jillian Jewell: hi everyone
[1:31]  Gumby Roffo: Hugs to Eva
[1:31]  Emerald Dumont: You should have notecard telling you how to hear voice..and Jillian Jewell will be typing in the first bit in the chat box..
[1:31]  Evangeline Wind: hi gum hugs :)
[1:31]  Lise Robbiani: The dis
[1:32]  Gumby Roffo: couldn't get my wheel chair in
[1:32]  Gumby Roffo: so I walked
[1:32]  Lise Robbiani: sure
[1:32]  Wolfie Rankin: The dis?
[1:32]  Gary Hazlitt: ;-)
[1:32]  Wolfie Rankin: Sounds like a band
[1:32]  Lise Robbiani: Welcome to the discussion of "The Librarians" TV series, hosted by Emerald Dumont. This event is designed as a "water cooler" kind of session to talk about our impressions of the show. You can watch it at: abc.net.au/tv/librarians . ******************** For help: IM Galia Beck
[1:33]  Emerald Dumont: The other notecard, Lise..the Admin..
[1:33]  Emerald Dumont: It's all all experimental :)
[1:33]  Lise Robbiani: Notecard given to you by Galia Beck gives some technical hints. Instant message her for assistance and trouble shooting. I will use voice to introduce and Jillian Jewel will type in chat for those who can't hear it.
[1:33]  Gumby Roffo: kk
[1:33]  Lise Robbiani: After the intro, we'll all use chat - not voice - and see how it goes. If it gets too chaotic....I will stop and ask anyone who wants to speak/chat to stand up and then press their fly button. I'll let you know when it's your turn...people with voice can talk and type at the same time if they want. Please stop flying when you have had your say.
[1:33]  Gary Hazlitt: ;-)
[1:33]  Lise Robbiani: The Librarians is a 6 part comedy series on ABC TV Wednesdays 9:30pm.
[1:34]  Lise Robbiani: about a head librarian in the six weeks leading up to book week
[1:34]  Lise Robbiani: From Crikey.com ...The Winners: The Chaser was tops for the ABC with 1.423 million, just in front of House with 1.399 million and Spicks and Specks with 1.315 million. Seven News was next with 1.300 million and the ABC debuted The Librarians at 9.30pm with a strong 1.292 million.
[1:34]  Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[1:34]  Connected
[1:34]  Lise Robbiani: certainly some interest in the show
[1:35]  Lise Robbiani: This discussion is aimed at librarians and friends of libraries or librarians.
[1:35]  Jillian Jewell: Hi Emerald can you please teleport me to you. My Sl is extremely slow
[1:35]  Gary Hazlitt: Left click any seat to sit down ;-)
[1:35]  Lise Robbiani: some of the discussion is a bit librariany but feel free to jump in
[1:35]  Lise Robbiani: 1. Does anything in the show depend on the industry it's set it?...paper manufacturers probably aren't having this conversation about the Office.
[1:35]  Gumby Roffo: LOL
[1:36]  Lise Robbiani: similar to drop the dead donkey or front line
[1:36]  Gumby Roffo: neither is management
[1:36]  Lise Robbiani: for the librarians
[1:36]  Solange Ferrer: Could I please be teleported, I can't see anyone.
[1:36]  Gumby Roffo: we will rez
[1:37]  Gumby Roffo: give it time
[1:37]  Lise Robbiani: What did people think of the set? Did you notice any similarities between it and your library? Any anomolies? Bonus points if anyone can tell me what was on Frances coffee cup and explain the meaning to non-library folk.
[1:37]  Solange Ferrer: Thank you
[1:37]  Gumby Roffo: the set was good
[1:37]  Lise Robbiani: The character of Frances. Do libraries have more passive/aggressive, repressed, self-rationalising but intelligent and able workers than other industries?
[1:37]  Gumby Roffo: I especially linked with the pardre and the musilum ladies, being in Woomera
[1:38]  Gumby Roffo: that scene was too close to home
[1:38]  Lise Robbiani: How close is what happens to Middleton Interactive Learning Centre to what we actually do? To what other people think we do? (We don't spend hours naming services, do we?)
[1:38]  Jasmine Kappler: Thwey certainly tried to cover all bases
[1:38]  Lise Robbiani: Do we have a core brand, a "Brand Library?" Should librarians try to define or protect it?
[1:39]  Gumby Roffo: you have a core role, already defined , with quirks that are indivual
[1:39]  Lise Robbiani: 6. Was it funny? 7. What do you think will happen? What would you like to see happen in the show? 8. Do you have a real life story that would make a great scene in "The Librarians?"
[1:39]  Gary Hazlitt: yay!
[1:40]  Texas Timtam: Thanks Lise.
[1:40]  Wolfie Rankin: Dustin
[1:40]  Lise Robbiani: thanks everyone
[1:40]  Evangeline Wind: lol
[1:40]  Gary Hazlitt: :-)
[1:40]  Lise Robbiani: To kick it off...I'm going to have a competition to find the most bizarre thing that has happened to an after hours return chute in your library.
[1:40]  Dustin Varun: hello
[1:40]  Dustin Varun: sry lag
[1:41]  Juko Tempel: I have a story about a return chute
[1:41]  Emerald Dumont: Go for it..what's the strangest or yukkiest thing in your returns chute?
[1:41]  Emerald Dumont: Go for it Juko
[1:41]  Gumby Roffo: we still get fire crackers in ours, and they have been banned for years
[1:41]  Juko Tempel: not funny though.. kids burnt the branch down.. through the return chute :-(
[1:41]  Juko Tempel: yep
[1:41]  Emerald Dumont: Firecrackers!!
[1:41]  Evangeline Wind: :( geez
[1:41]  Cabsav Lane grins
[1:41]  Juko Tempel: got us a new branch though lol
[1:42]  Galia Beck: Where do they buy them?
[1:42]  Juko Tempel: nope
[1:42]  Gary Hazlitt: hehe
[1:42]  Emerald Dumont: Does it have a returns churte in the new building?
[1:42]  Juko Tempel: well, sort of.. and fire proof
[1:42]  Juko Tempel: lol
[1:42]  Nova: Fireproof is good
[1:42]  Emerald Dumont: Ho wabout things you've found in books used as bookmarks? I've had dental floss ...
[1:42]  Juko Tempel: we did get flowers in ours sometimes too :-)
[1:42]  Lise Robbiani: any other suggestions - $30 voucher up for grabs
[1:42]  Nova: I know of a library that was burnt down completely via the book chute
[1:42]  Juko Tempel: and money!
[1:42]  Emerald Dumont: Flowers?
[1:43]  Emerald Dumont: With a note?
[1:43]  Gumby Roffo: A members card for collingwood
[1:43]  Emerald Dumont: Money :)
[1:43]  Juko Tempel: in the return chute.. nope, just nice clients :-)
[1:43]  Emerald Dumont: As a book mark.
[1:43]  Juko Tempel: money as bookmarks
[1:43]  Juko Tempel: lol
[1:43]  Gumby Roffo: as a book mark
[1:43]  Emerald Dumont: And personal photos are used lots as bookmarks too
[1:43]  Emerald Dumont: Let's keept the topic open and let Lise judge at the end of the talk :)
[1:44]  Juko Tempel: found a passport once too.. not a good idea as a bookmark lol
[1:44]  Lise Robbiani: should we find out how many librarians there are among us tonight?
[1:44]  Emerald Dumont: So ....do you think libraries only attract people like Frances..or that we have a greater share of them?
[1:44]  Jillian Jewell: emerald
[1:44]  Tiny Strawberry Soda Bottle: Strawberry is a Betty's Beverages favorite!
[1:44]  Juko Tempel: i'm one
[1:44]  Tehanu Allen: i'm soon to start
[1:45]  Nova: I'm one
[1:45]  Solange Ferrer: Hi, I'm from NSW TAFE. I think on the whole no, although we still have some
[1:45]  Emerald Dumont: how about librarians or students type in Librarian..
[1:45]  Nova: Librarian
[1:45]  Tehanu Allen: Librarian
[1:45]  Gary Hazlitt: Lecturers?
[1:45]  Poppy Fizzle: Librarian
[1:45]  Lowell Cremorne: Lecherers?
[1:45]  Emerald Dumont: I think that combination of inflexible personality and inteligence ( ! :) ) is foudn commonly in libraries
[1:45]  Juko Tempel: are their own peculiar people lol
[1:45]  Tehanu Allen: Yes, I'd agree emerald
[1:46]  Juko Tempel: focussed perhaps?
[1:46]  Juko Tempel: :-)
[1:46]  Tehanu Allen: It is the inflexibility I have noticed in my dealings as a customer
[1:46]  Tehanu Allen: and that I'll try to avoid if I can - although it is a personality trait!
[1:46]  Gumby Roffo: " persons that forget to return books"
[1:46]  Emerald Dumont: The "I don't amke the rules phenonema"?
[1:46]  Juko Tempel: it does help to like organising things.. that's the paradox
[1:47]  Gary Hazlitt: Organising People and Avies ;-)
[1:47]  Juko Tempel: hehe
[1:47]  Emerald Dumont: Yes - if you are good at anally getting things arranged just so - then you may not be too flexible..
[1:47]  Dustin Varun: brb
[1:47]  Juko Tempel: but you can catalogue..
[1:47]  Wolfie Rankin: I thought people mostly used their hands to arange things, I hadn't thought of doing it that way before ;)
[1:48]  Juko Tempel: pfft
[1:48]  Emerald Dumont: You'd be surprised Wolfie
[1:48]  Lise Robbiani: So is it a pre-disposed personality trait - are they all similar?
[1:48]  Juanita Deharo: we all have our own personal library in sl
[1:48]  Wolfie Rankin: I'm channelling Flacco
[1:48]  Juanita Deharo: its called an inventory
[1:48]  Gary Hazlitt: Mines a bomb site ;-)
[1:49]  Juko Tempel: but we catalogue ours lol
[1:49]  Abi Goldflake: yes would be interesting to look at a librarian's inventory and see how neat it is..
[1:49]  Emerald Dumont: True...but you also have a 40 island archipelago teeming with over 600 librarians :)
[1:49]  Juko Tempel blushes.. very
[1:49]  Emerald Dumont: Not neat at all
[1:49]  Gumby Roffo: I need one to sort out rails and mine
[1:49]  Juanita Deharo: perhaps there's a job here
[1:50]  Juanita Deharo: isnt that what librarians are?
[1:50]  Juko Tempel: Inventory Sorter lol
[1:50]  Emerald Dumont: Do you think we'll see more of Frances' home in later episodes..what would it look like if it's a "Typical uptight librarin's" hime?
[1:50]  Emerald Dumont: home
[1:50]  Juko Tempel: please god no!
[1:50]  Nova: especially feels like that at stocktake time
[1:50]  MMV Writer: as long as its no more bathroom shots
[1:50]  Galia Beck: What is a 'typical uptight librarian?
[1:50]  Gumby Roffo: That Sim would need a Mature rating
[1:50]  Emerald Dumont: :)
[1:50]  Juanita Deharo: I am wondering what their home would look like
[1:50]  Wolfie Rankin: what would be weird is if she had rooms organised by colour, a totally red room, a totally blue one
[1:50]  Nova: what's a typical librarian?
[1:51]  Gary Hazlitt: Monets house was like that
[1:51]  Juko Tempel: they love to read hehe
[1:51]  Tehanu Allen: do you think typical librarians are changing - th epeople i'm at uni with don't seem to fit the stereotype...
[1:51]  Emerald Dumont: My spices are arranged by different coloured lids
[1:51]  Juko Tempel: they do in the office lol
[1:51]  Juanita Deharo: havent learnmt enough yet then
[1:51]  Nova: I don't know any that seem to be typical
[1:51]  Lise Robbiani: I gubut how are their bookshelves arranged? dewey?
[1:51]  Galia Beck: And mine alphabetically
[1:51]  Juko Tempel blushes
[1:51]  Emerald Dumont: I think maybe cataloguers are more like the Frances personality..
[1:51]  Nova: mine aren't organised at all, except on Librarything
[1:51]  Tehanu Allen: but a lot of those i've come into contact with who have been in the industry for a while do seem to be quite inflexible, if very nice!
[1:52]  Juko Tempel: oh me too!
[1:52]  Juko Tempel: LibraryTHing..
[1:52]  Wolfie Rankin: I have piles
[1:52]  Juanita Deharo: really wolfie!
[1:52]  Wolfie Rankin: ...of stuff... everywhere
[1:52]  Emerald Dumont: Although one thing I think they got right was the constant having to clear things with occ health and safety or the council or grumpy public b4 they could do anything
[1:52]  Gumby Roffo: theres a cure Wolfie
[1:52]  MMV Writer: lol
[1:52]  Juko Tempel: oh yes.. rules and regs
[1:52]  Wolfie Rankin: yeah there's a pill for that
[1:52]  Emerald Dumont: Although it loked like Frances used tht as an excuse for total inaction
[1:52]  Gary Hazlitt: No smutty jokes allowed in libraries ;_0
[1:53]  Galia Beck: Absolutely
[1:53]  Juko Tempel: you reckon?
[1:53]  Abi Goldflake: yes seemed like frances really didn't want to do anything new at all
[1:53]  Emerald Dumont: We have shelves of them, Gary :)
[1:53]  Wolfie Rankin: control freak?
[1:53]  Tehanu Allen: i have been to a few libraries lately where they don't allow email... for policy / security reasons. seems to fit the portrayal on the show
[1:53]  Gary Hazlitt: And her fascination with young mens bottoms - tut
[1:53]  Emerald Dumont: You jest!
[1:53]  Nova: perfectly natural
[1:53]  Juko Tempel: perfectly understandable
[1:53]  Gary Hazlitt: hehe
[1:53]  Emerald Dumont: not the bottoms, the email..
[1:53]  Juko Tempel: hehe
[1:54]  Tehanu Allen: no, its true, very very shortsighted i think
[1:54]  Gumby Roffo: I did laugh at the " brainstorming session , where Francese didnt want to put up certian ideas , I have seen that in action
[1:54]  Juko Tempel: the small team is certainly a feature in community libraries
[1:54]  Woodney Aabye: Icolour code my wardrobe and organise my spices alphabetically. My best friend says I am a born librarian
[1:54]  Emerald Dumont: That was vbery close to the bone
[1:54]  Tehanu Allen: email seems basic to me, but councils are putting policies into place saying NO
[1:54]  Abi Goldflake: yes we've had a few of those at the abc..
[1:54]  Abi Goldflake: (brainstorms)
[1:54]  Emerald Dumont: Ah..so it's not just library specific
[1:54]  MMV Writer: ditto
[1:54]  Emerald Dumont: The dreaded "get your idea on the whiteboard or die"
[1:55]  Gumby Roffo: yep although the involvement was with some yanks
[1:55]  Emerald Dumont: One thing that I thought was odd...it may have been personal...
[1:55]  Emerald Dumont: Was that the depiction of race seemed to be non-contentious..as in I wasn't outraged by the issues raised..wondering why..
[1:56]  Galia Beck: I was
[1:56]  Tehanu Allen: yes i cringed
[1:56]  Gary Hazlitt: It is very formulaic now in sitcoms
[1:56]  Nova: i think the racism jokes were too cliched - could see them coming a mile off
[1:56]  Emerald Dumont: i know that was a place in the show where we were meant to laugh at Frances and show up her small mindedness
[1:56]  MMV Writer: the cringe factor is an objective for a lot of shows
[1:56]  Abi Goldflake: did u think it was too obvious emerald?
[1:56]  Gary Hazlitt: and I think the office has actually finished it as a humourous form
[1:57]  Emerald Dumont: But I just thought..yes..we KNOW that....
[1:57]  Galia Beck: It went on a bit too much I thought
[1:57]  Arton Tripsa: me too
[1:57]  Gumby Roffo: I cringed , and was hoping the next episode was at a different target
[1:57]  Wolfie Rankin: I would have liked to laugh but it never came
[1:57]  Emerald Dumont: Not too obvious..but I guess that the ppl who were being attacked kind of remained powerless
[1:57]  Tehanu Allen: i was the same wolfie
[1:57]  Gary Hazlitt: It was a kind of mean spirited form of humour in a few areas - not even black...
[1:57]  Woodney Aabye: There were so many shorts on tv how suprised were we really
[1:57]  Juko Tempel: hmm.. it wasn't funny.. even though i recognised the stereotypes and wanted them to be amusing
[1:57]  Nova: I watched with my family and we only had one laugh near the begnning - can't even remember what the joke was. probably toilet humour
[1:57]  Emerald Dumont: I'd like to see it develop so that they get revenge on her
[1:58]  Emerald Dumont: I wonder whether there is a lot of setting up happening..that will make sense by the end..
[1:58]  Nova: I think it was too level in tone. there were no highs/lows
[1:58]  Xtina Carpool: yes that was a bit disturbing - can only hope for a revenge episode
[1:58]  Abi Goldflake: yes I agree emerald, think the characters will develop bit more
[1:58]  Emerald Dumont: Bit like some of those realy obscure set ups that happened on Seinfeld.
[1:58]  Gumby Roffo: was it Dawns driving
[1:58]  Abi Goldflake: maybe like little britain - 1st episode was not funny at all and then it grows on you
[1:58]  Gary Hazlitt: The was a sense of dark forboding about Francis's character - looks at jukos new goth look ;-)
[1:58]  Tehanu Allen: i liked the use of dyslexia to make the pretty boy more interesting... i am interested to see how that is portrayed in future
[1:58]  Juko Tempel: hehe
[1:58]  Texas Timtam: Sorry all. I'm got to run - dinner calls. This has been great. Thanks for setting it up. Good discussion all.
[1:58]  Nova: I guess also that because it's a comedy - you can tell cos its on wednesday night - that characterisation
[1:59]  Galia Beck: I hope character development doesnt take too long
[1:59]  Nova: will be very stereotypical - a drama would give more realistic depictions
[1:59]  Emerald Dumont: What directions would you like to see it develop in..
[1:59]  Juko Tempel: it certainly felt like lots of character introductions
[1:59]  Woodney Aabye: someone drew parallels with the Brittas Empire and I thought that was accuarate
[1:59]  Emerald Dumont: I thought one of the things the producers wanted was to show something more rounded than the Officd
[1:59]  Emerald Dumont: Oh Bbrittas! Yes!
[1:59]  Gary Hazlitt: Yes extending the characters - making them more distinct
[1:59]  MMV Writer: focus on diff characters .. rather than Frances
[2:00]  Juko Tempel: yes Brittas is a good comparison..
[2:00]  Wolfie Rankin: I confess to not finding the office funny either
[2:00]  Xtina Carpool: i like that it is aust content
[2:00]  Gary Hazlitt: had some good back story moments
[2:00]  Abi Goldflake: wolfie, you heretic
[2:00]  Gumby Roffo: a cross betwween kath N kym and the office
[2:00]  Juko Tempel: very hard when the central character is just whingy
[2:00]  Wolfie Rankin: or kath n kim
[2:00]  Emerald Dumont: Someone today blogged that they'd like to see more interaction with the customers
[2:00]  Woodney Aabye: Brittas never got waht he deserved - theo opposite
[2:00]  Nova: yes bring it on
[2:00]  Galia Beck: Doesn't put us in a good light :-)
[2:00]  Juko Tempel: oh yes.. there need to be some stereotypical customers too lol
[2:00]  Arton Tripsa: the main character needed more depth, I'd lke to see another side Francis
[2:00]  Lise Robbiani: It actually reminded me of nighty night
[2:00]  Xtina Carpool: i liked that the dark secrets were intro'd in the first episode
[2:00]  Tehanu Allen: i agree arton
[2:01]  Cabsav Lane: how will the library function if the power ever fails ?? will they be able to do it manually ?
[2:01]  Juko Tempel: we have ways and means Cab :-)
[2:01]  Cabsav Lane: or lock the doors?
[2:01]  Galia Beck: Never
[2:01]  Tehanu Allen: and it does seem that friends of mine are just having their stereotypes confirmed by the show.
[2:01]  Woodney Aabye: not a s all out gross as Nighty night
[2:01]  Emerald Dumont: I hope that there is more depth coming..bcs yes..I thought that I'd have trouble warming to the main character as more than how ppl think librarians are
[2:02]  Randy Ventura: Pardon me, I hear background noises aplenty but nothing from the forum itself!?!
[2:02]  Gary Hazlitt: we are in chat
[2:02]  Juko Tempel: not using voice now Randy
[2:02]  Emerald Dumont: We had a blackout and failure of the security doors once on a day when the library was closed...and when the librarian in charge came to check it out
[2:02]  Gary Hazlitt: although we like Emeralds voice ;-)
[2:02]  Randy Ventura: OK, thanks
[2:02]  Wolfie Rankin: there we go
[2:02]  Emerald Dumont: there were custromers browsing the shelves
[2:02]  Juko Tempel: in the dark?
[2:02]  Juko Tempel: lol
[2:02]  Emerald Dumont: So the show goes on and on
[2:02]  Emerald Dumont: Oh yes..
[2:02]  Juko Tempel: hehe i believe it
[2:03]  Wolfie Rankin: My cacuum cleaner ate my mic
[2:03]  Wolfie Rankin: vacuum
[2:03]  Juko Tempel: there should be a customer coming in asking for a red book.. about this big..
[2:03]  Juko Tempel: :-)
[2:03]  Nova: The funniest thing that happened to me was dealing with deaf customer
[2:03]  Emerald Dumont: Oh yes!!
[2:03]  Emerald Dumont: And then it would be a green one twice the size..
[2:03]  Tehanu Allen: yes if there were search capacity for colour we'd be sorted
[2:03]  Emerald Dumont: on video..
[2:04]  Nova: because he talked so loud the whole library could hear him. And after i had my haircut he decided to tell me it was a shame
[2:04]  Juko Tempel: that might have a picture on the cover..
[2:04]  Emerald Dumont: What happened with te deaf scustomer
[2:04]  Woodney Aabye: I love the conspiracy therorisist
[2:04]  Emerald Dumont: Oh noes
[2:04]  Juko Tempel: hehe Nova
[2:04]  Nova: because he liked really long hair spread out on a pillow. Mortification, swallop me up and hide in teh book chute
[2:04]  Emerald Dumont: Conspiracy theorist?
[2:04]  Emerald Dumont: OMG Nova!
[2:04]  Nova: I was about 20 at the time
[2:04]  Emerald Dumont: Don't know about you, but we get customers who kind of thinik they own us
[2:04]  Nova: Funny now though
[2:05]  Emerald Dumont: And our image and reputation
[2:05]  Juko Tempel: oh yes! "but you know i like that author.. why didn't you keep it for me?"
[2:05]  Woodney Aabye: we get them in our library trying to prove some theory
[2:05]  Randy Ventura: Who could possibly think that?
[2:05]  Juko Tempel: personal librarians
[2:05]  Emerald Dumont: Oh RL..yes...we get them all the time
[2:05]  Randy Ventura: Own the ABC?
[2:05]  Randy Ventura: It is ours!
[2:05]  Juko Tempel: so are the community libraries..
[2:06]  Emerald Dumont: We used to get all our WW2, Witchcraft books stolen from the shelves..I believe it is common
[2:06]  Gumby Roffo: the personal touch always works with customers
[2:06]  Juko Tempel: and economics textbooks :-)
[2:06]  Tehanu Allen: i like the idea that people feel so strongly about the library, that it is 'theirs'. that's what we want, right?
[2:06]  Nova: back in my public library days we used to go through huge numbers of the joy of sex
[2:06]  Gumby Roffo: give or take there mood
[2:06]  Emerald Dumont: Do you think that "The Librarians" is a positivbe thing fo rAus Libraries..or it doesn't matter
[2:06]  Woodney Aabye: they usually start out normal then boom, away they go
[2:06]  Tehanu Allen: any publicity is good publicity i guess
[2:06]  Emerald Dumont: Would you like to rephrase that Nova?
[2:07]  Juko Tempel: it will remind some people to go to their local one i think
[2:07]  Galia Beck: lol
[2:07]  Nova: no you knw what i mean
[2:07]  Gary Hazlitt: Or to avoid it - but it shows a human side
[2:07]  Gumby Roffo: its a comedy and Aussies get that, ( I hope)
[2:07]  Emerald Dumont: i wonder if anyone is doig a head count
[2:07]  Juko Tempel: 16>
[2:07]  Tehanu Allen: not a very nice human side generally!
[2:07]  Galia Beck: I have snapshots
[2:07]  Lowell Cremorne: 32 at peak ;)
[2:07]  Emerald Dumont: of ppl who go into their library..sorry..after seeing the show
[2:07]  Juko Tempel: lol
[2:07]  Galia Beck: Ah
[2:08]  Gary Hazlitt: 26 at moment
[2:08]  Emerald Dumont: So what would you add to the show?
[2:08]  Juanita Deharo: how would you know it wqas beciuse of the show?
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[2:08]  Nova: maybe a poll at the door, how did you hear about the library? What prompted this visit?
[2:08]  Juko Tempel: the regulars will all tell their librarians what they think, that's for sure
[2:08]  Gumby Roffo: mines closed for the night
[2:08]  Emerald Dumont: Soemthing that occurred in your libraries
[2:08]  Woodney Aabye: is this the first time in a SL forum for anyone else?
[2:08]  Nova: Me
[2:08]  Emerald Dumont: We had a guy who was standing next to staff and young girls, but we coulnd't work out what he was doing..
[2:08]  Poppy Fizzle: me
[2:08]  Tehanu Allen: formal - yes for me
[2:09]  Juko Tempel: and what was it Emerald?
[2:09]  Nova: We had a mentally ill man who lived in a panel van in the carpark behind the library.
[2:09]  Randy Ventura: Dear folk, please excuse Much Muni and I, we have a lot of socials to attend, thanks for your hospitality, we need to have a special drink now, Bye!!
[2:09]  Emerald Dumont: Turned out that he had mirrors in the toes of his thongs...and he was pulling the cover off them to look up ppl's skirts
[2:09]  Juko Tempel: hehe
[2:09]  Abi Goldflake: bye randy
[2:09]  Nova: We were all scared witless when he came in talking to himself. Then one day we heard this yelling and he was doing a Basil Fawlty to his panel van with a huge branch
[2:09]  Wolfie Rankin: oh god
[2:09]  Emerald Dumont: Bye Randy.
[2:09]  Gary Hazlitt: this is not typical - being in a real library environment ! for SL...we often try to avoid closed in meets like this :-)
[2:09]  Jillian Jewell: so sorry, my sl is not working - low downloads seem to be available at home
[2:09]  Woodney Aabye: I am having tjouble tyoping on my laptop, next time I'll vconnect the wirelwss keyboard
[2:09]  Emerald Dumont: Ler's aim to go until 6:15 with the tak?
[2:09]  Tehanu Allen: we had a drunken poet who came in and abused people's choice of book... not that f&&& ing author and so on...
[2:10]  Jillian Jewell: didn't mean to sit on you
[2:10]  Tehanu Allen: he was a very good poet though
[2:10]  Emerald Dumont: You joke Tehanuy?
[2:10]  Jillian Jewell: couldnt see anyone
[2:10]  Tehanu Allen: nope, seriously, had to throw him out many times
[2:10]  Tehanu Allen: nicely, of course
[2:10]  Galia Beck: We had someone with a shoe fetish - found under a table sucking on someone's shoe
[2:10]  Emerald Dumont: Did you have him do any reciptals
[2:10]  Juko Tempel: aah that's too bad Jillian
[2:10]  Tehanu Allen: sucking on a shoe???
[2:10]  Juko Tempel: eek
[2:10]  Emerald Dumont: Oh no..someone else's shoe..on the foot
[2:10]  Juko Tempel: we had a book thief
[2:10]  Wolfie Rankin: someones mic is on
[2:10]  Galia Beck: On the foot
[2:10]  Juko Tempel: slipped them out over years
[2:10]  MMV Writer: sounds like the public transport system
[2:10]  Nova: crossword souvenirs
[2:11]  Tehanu Allen: regular book theif?
[2:11]  Wolfie Rankin: and I hear typing
[2:11]  Juanita Deharo: Xtina
[2:11]  Evangeline Wind: yes me too wolfie
[2:11]  Juanita Deharo: Xtainas mic is on
[2:11]  Juko Tempel: got caught with books from heaps of libraries
[2:11]  Emerald Dumont: Not mine
[2:11]  Emerald Dumont: Yes, we had that too
[2:11]  Juko Tempel: and soaps and talc from chemists
[2:11]  Emerald Dumont: Was selling them on ebay I think...definitely at swapmeets
[2:12]  Woodney Aabye: I lost 12 copies of the ABS social atlas
[2:12]  Juko Tempel: seemed like such a nice guy.. always chatty.. guess we didn't check his bag lol
[2:12]  Emerald Dumont: Oh yuck
[2:12]  Emerald Dumont: Thanks to whoever turned off the mic
[2:12]  Wolfie Rankin: Once at highschool I remember we had a storm, and the library got completely flooded out
[2:12]  Wolfie Rankin: it happened several times
[2:12]  Nova: There was a case in NZ of organised crime stealing thousands of books from a University Library and selling them. He was cuaght with a huge stockpile in his garage
[2:12]  Juko Tempel: oh nightmare.. wet books eww
[2:12]  Emerald Dumont: Several tijes?
[2:12]  Wolfie Rankin: amazing to think it could rain so much
[2:12]  Gary Hazlitt: bless you
[2:12]  Wolfie Rankin: no, the books were ok
[2:12]  Emerald Dumont: TY
[2:13]  Wolfie Rankin: smelly carpet though
[2:13]  Tehanu Allen: a librarian friend commented the other day about TLs - that they are the only way we'll change people's perceptions of the profession
[2:13]  Emerald Dumont: Yukko
[2:13]  Juanita Deharo: what are tls?
[2:13]  Tehanu Allen: that's where it all starts I guess. all that shushing and controlling behaviour
[2:13]  Emerald Dumont: could be nice point
[2:13]  Nova: speaking of wet books and revisiting the theme of book chutes. I went to work after a long weekend and had to clear a book chute piled high with urine soaked novels.
[2:13]  Gary Hazlitt: How many libraries would let the attendees use second life?
[2:13]  Emerald Dumont: Teacher librarians
[2:13]  Gary Hazlitt: ugh novas
[2:13]  Gary Hazlitt: nova
[2:13]  Emerald Dumont: Oh yuck, Nova
[2:13]  Tehanu Allen: most libraries say no chat, this probably counts. or no games. so very few in Perth that i have visited. none, in fact
[2:14]  Juko Tempel: some Universities would..
[2:14]  Nova: not pleasant - it was probably worse to clean up than the one in the show
[2:14]  Wolfie Rankin: what gary, with farting werewolves?
[2:14]  Emerald Dumont: Chewing gum in the book chute is not fun either
[2:14]  Gary Hazlitt: Well headphones
[2:14]  Gary Hazlitt: Is SL considered
[2:14]  Gary Hazlitt: educational
[2:14]  Gary Hazlitt: such as attending this
[2:14]  Gary Hazlitt: in a library
[2:14]  Emerald Dumont: It is in my library..
[2:14]  Gumby Roffo: are you near a pub nova?
[2:14]  Nova: no
[2:14]  Juanita Deharo: libraries can go too far in the other directyion - ours hardly has any books in it now
[2:14]  Juanita Deharo: all computers and kids and games
[2:14]  Gumby Roffo: yesting
[2:14]  Tehanu Allen: generally not Gary but it is part of the uni course i have been doing, that's how I first came here
[2:14]  Emerald Dumont: We have a lab set up with SL upgraded runing for workshop
[2:15]  Galia Beck: Problem with SL is too much bandwidth
[2:15]  Emerald Dumont: Is a bandwidther issue to allow it on public PCs
[2:15]  Tehanu Allen: yes juanita, my friend is at a school that has an e-learning centre instead of a library. baby out with the bathwater i think
[2:15]  Gary Hazlitt: ONly in Australia
[2:15]  Emerald Dumont: No..everywhere
[2:15]  Juanita Deharo: this is a public library
[2:15]  Woodney Aabye: can't use it at work
[2:15]  Juanita Deharo: doesnt cater for books any more
[2:15]  MMV Writer: do most libraries have net security ?
[2:15]  Emerald Dumont: I loved the start of the Librarians wehre a handwritten sight "Library
[2:15]  Woodney Aabye: work for the government
[2:15]  Juko Tempel: hehe me too
[2:15]  Wolfie Rankin: yeah I did like that joke
[2:15]  Emerald Dumont: Was under the Middleton intereactive learning centre" sign
[2:15]  Woodney Aabye: metoo
[2:16]  Juko Tempel: translation :-)
[2:16]  Gumby Roffo: wb jillian
[2:16]  Gary Hazlitt: Also are Open Mikes common in libraries - letting the 'readers' vent
[2:16]  Emerald Dumont: Taht would be great..
[2:16]  Gary Hazlitt: Seemed in the show that was out of place?
[2:16]  Emerald Dumont: Some have commentable blogs
[2:16]  Galia Beck: Chaotic tho
[2:16]  Woodney Aabye: got to improve my typing on thid computer. there is quite a lag befor e the text appears
[2:17]  Juko Tempel: well.. events where people contribute.. perhaps not quite like that..
[2:17]  Emerald Dumont: No...libraries do put on those kinds of events
[2:17]  Emerald Dumont: Bonsai fancying clubs even
[2:17]  Juko Tempel: and invited speakers at forums
[2:17]  Nova: Not literally open mikes, but we have an open suggestion box - all forms are answered and placed up onthe noticeboard so everyone can read them. Unless they contain foul language or abuse someone
[2:17]  Juko Tempel: with questions, certainly
[2:17]  Gary Hazlitt: Yes it seemed rather comedy club more than library
[2:17]  Juko Tempel: yes hobby clubs use library spaces
[2:18]  Emerald Dumont: I've really enjoyed the chat..but I'm going to wind up soon.
[2:18]  Emerald Dumont: Just wondering what peopel thought was the best library story..
[2:18]  Juanita Deharo: thanks emerald
[2:18]  Emerald Dumont: For the $30 voucher
[2:18]  Nova: yes thanks very much
[2:18]  Tehanu Allen: the shoe sucker
[2:18]  Juko Tempel: ooh yes
[2:18]  Gumby Roffo: Ty for coming Emerald
[2:18]  Tehanu Allen: that one won hands down for me
[2:18]  MMV Writer: yep
[2:18]  Cabsav Lane: mine
[2:18]  Emerald Dumont: That's fine
[2:18]  Wolfie Rankin: I agree, I like weirdness :)
[2:18]  Emerald Dumont: The shoe sucker..oh yes...
[2:18]  Lise Robbiani: who's was that one?
[2:19]  Emerald Dumont: I think Galia had the joy of that customer
[2:19]  Galia Beck: Mine, I wasn't thinking of the prize tho
[2:19]  Emerald Dumont: Was there anything else ppl wanted to add about the show?
[2:19]  Cabsav Lane glances under the tables here........
[2:19]  Juko Tempel: hehe
[2:19]  Tehanu Allen: i liked their cardy-comments on youtube
[2:19]  Gumby Roffo: Bring on next week
[2:19]  Juko Tempel: Thanks Emerald.. well done
[2:19]  Abi Goldflake: maybe we shoudl reconvene at the end of the series and see what we all think then
[2:19]  Emerald Dumont: Does anyone have a wiki that we could pout a transcript of the chat on?
[2:19]  Tehanu Allen: Thanks Emerald, yes great work. Good idea abi
[2:19]  Juko Tempel: good idea@
[2:19]  Emerald Dumont: Oh yes..I'd be in that
[2:20]  MMV Writer: yep good one
[2:20]  Nova: How about on LibrariesInteract?
[2:20]  Juko Tempel: and the ABC Second Life site Lise?
[2:20]  Emerald Dumont: We could put it on another page I guesss nova
[2:20]  Galia Beck: Or Emerald's blog - Librarians Matter?
[2:20]  Emerald Dumont: Good idea
[2:20]  Nova: On Vlint
[2:20]  Lise Robbiani: of course
[2:20]  Tehanu Allen: Also, do you guys have these forums often? Any other blogs/pages I should know about?
[2:20]  Emerald Dumont: It VLIT..yes
[2:20]  Nova: since television shows are kind of virtual
[2:20]  Abi Goldflake: tehanu, join abc friends and you'll get notes about future events
[2:20]  Emerald Dumont: http://virtual.libraries.interact.info
[2:20]  Tehanu Allen: Brilliant, thanks Abi
[2:21]  Emerald Dumont: sorry..wrong URL]
[2:21]  Lise Robbiani: yes make sure you join our group.
[2:21]  Juko Tempel: Beach Party tomorrow night too if you're interested
[2:21]  Emerald Dumont: http://virtual.librariesinteract.info
[2:21]  Juko Tempel: 7.00 til late
[2:21]  Gary Hazlitt: 7 til 710 ;-)
[2:21]  Tehanu Allen: Cheers everyone.
[2:21]  Emerald Dumont: Are there any librarians here who haven't joinged the Oz Librarians group?
[2:21]  Tehanu Allen: me!
[2:21]  Juko Tempel: me..
[2:21]  Emerald Dumont: IM me if you would like to
[2:21]  Lise Robbiani: Just to let everyone know next week we're having a special Melbourne Cup celebration in the laneways
[2:21]  Juko Tempel: thanks
[2:21]  Nova: thanks
[2:21]  Juko Tempel: oh cool!
[2:22]  MMV Writer: So time to frock up
[2:22]  Nova: thanks for hosting this event
[2:22]  Wolfie Rankin: oh good, can we place bets here too? ;)
[2:22]  Gumby Roffo: yes hand me some detailos and I'll pass them to our local
[2:22]  Lise Robbiani: There will be a fashion on the fields competition
[2:22]  Lise Robbiani: no gambling on abc :)
[2:22]  Wolfie Rankin: awwwwwww
[2:22]  Juko Tempel: aah but a new dress :-)
[2:22]  Juanita Deharo: and a hat
[2:22]  Abi Goldflake: and a hat of course
[2:22]  Abi Goldflake: snap
[2:22]  Juanita Deharo: lol
[2:22]  Juko Tempel: hehe of course
[2:22]  Wolfie Rankin: I only bet on Rogan Josh cause he was a nice curry, and I won
[2:22]  Gary Hazlitt: just a hat!
[2:22]  Wolfie Rankin: it's true
[2:22]  Juko Tempel: PG sim Gary
[2:23]  Cabsav Lane: limit is your 8 cents
[2:23]  Juko Tempel: dare you!
[2:23]  Lise Robbiani: and we will also be having Melbourne cup interactive game with a prize of a night's accomodation in a swish Melbourne hotel valued at $250 thanks to Multimedia Victoria
[2:23]  Gary Hazlitt: woooooo
[2:23]  Gary's Wings whispers: Juko playfully ruffles the feathers in Gary's wings.
[2:23]  Gary's Wings whispers: Gary flutters his wings in a flirtatious manner.
[2:23]  Lise Robbiani: a real hotel!
[2:23]  Wolfie Rankin: oh that's cool
[2:23]  Gary Hazlitt: will SL access
[2:23]  Juko Tempel: but in Melbourne lol
[2:23]  Abi Goldflake: except if you already live in melbourne...
[2:23]  Galia Beck: Airfares too?
[2:24]  Wolfie Rankin: my doggie would cry for me
[2:24]  MMV Writer: sorry no airfares
[2:24]  Gary Hazlitt: Still great prize for SL!
[2:24]  Juko Tempel: exactly
[2:24]  Galia Beck: Yes indeed
[2:24]  Wolfie Rankin: Very good, yes
[2:24]  Gary Hazlitt: 600 000 L $$
[2:24]  Gary Hazlitt: ish
[2:24]  Juko Tempel laughs
[2:24]  Galia Beck: Can I have it in Lindens?
[2:24]  Abi Goldflake: lol
[2:25]  Wolfie Rankin: you'd get more entrants if it were in Lindens though
[2:25]  Lise Robbiani: So start thinking about Your Own Piece of Melbourne to display in the Laneways
[2:25]  Wolfie Rankin: I already have ;)
[2:25]  Juanita Deharo: A ticket out of there?
[2:25]  Wolfie Rankin: did you see the wolf heads?
[2:25]  Gumby Roffo: Im in charge of the roads out
[2:26]  Juko Tempel: Thanks again Emerald
[2:26]  Lise Robbiani: but just before we close we should really thank Emerald for tonight
[2:26]  Gary Hazlitt: Yay!
[2:26]  Juanita Deharo: caps
[2:26]  Galia Beck: I agree
[2:26]  Juko Tempel: woohoo!
[2:26]  Wolfie Rankin: Thanks Emerald :)
[2:26]  Evangeline Wind: tyvm emerald
[2:26]  Juanita Deharo: claps
[2:26]  Emerald Dumont: You are very welcome
[2:26]  MMV Writer: cheers
[2:26]  Xtina Carpool: yay thanks
[2:26]  Abi Goldflake: that was great, tx emerald
[2:26]  Lise Robbiani: thanks everyone for coming
[2:26]  Gumby Roffo: Rokit this you sexy Pixel
[2:26]  Gumby Roffo: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSEEEEEEE***********
[2:26]  Emerald Dumont: See you all back here in 6 weeks or so
[2:26]  Arton Tripsa: yes thanks!
[2:26]  Cabsav Lane: yep great thanks
[2:26]  Abi Goldflake: yes for finale
[2:27]  Gary Hazlitt: hands hurt
[2:27]  MMV Writer: what no fireworks Gary? ..lol
[2:27]  Emerald Dumont: Mayvbe we'll be able to get it streamed in then ;)
[2:27]  Gary's Wings whispers: Juko strokes Gary's wings softly.
[2:27]  Gary Hazlitt: indoor ones ok
[2:27]  Emerald Dumont: Just teasing
[2:27]  Gumby Roffo: TY Emerald
[2:27]  Gumby Roffo: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSEEEEEEE***********
[2:27]  Gary Hazlitt: watch out for those books!
[2:27]  Juko Tempel: sparklers?
[2:27]  Wolfie Rankin: Shhh Gum, it's a Library ;)
[2:27]  MMV Writer: installed sprinklers?
[2:27]  Gumby Roffo: OK nukes ahoy!
[2:28]  Juko Tempel: of course :-)
[2:28]  Gary Hazlitt: um checks architects diagrams
[2:28]  Lise Robbiani: Make sure you join ABC Friends for info and tell your friends!